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Re: Most dominant clan ever.

Post by Jb_ » May 2011

scorch- wrote:when you're getting shot in the back by habib in the dumbest/best corner in the universe, you don't have a choice. the screamo just happens.


lol so true

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Re: Most dominant clan ever.

Post by Jb_ » May 2011

seanality wrote:Josh,

don't worry about not getting acknowledgement from the other top teams. From the perspective of a player and a team that always strived to be at a top tier level I have to say you all (hb, col, x6) had your time. There were times I would scrim or play a match against anyone of the top tier teams and say to myself hell even we could beat them or wow that team is going to win it all. I don't want to say a team got lucky but maybe they did or maybe they just practiced a little harder for that match and it worked out in the long run. I think the big game changer all came down to intelligence and self-control. Teams like hb and risk had crazy amounts of skill where teams like col and x6 had grandpa like self-control and experience, they always did the right things at the right times.

Now that I am older and have more of understanding for the game I can see why certain players were needed for a team. Chaos and max were smart and could hold a route but would hardly win a one v one against the top players in the game where Kellen, dorito, and Marshall would frag like sobs. It's all relavent and maybe it's only the difference of a few small plays and a few more hours of practice. Who knows, who cares now. We all know who was the best team: n2p/Eximius. Kthx



Thats a good way of looking at it, I have to agree with you sir.

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Post by ryanemo » May 2011

better yet, when you have habib having someone ghosting your entire team at LAN and yelling "Nice shot habib!" when one of us is ninja'd, i can definitely see where the screamo happens

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Post by scorch- » May 2011

seanality wrote:Teams like hb and risk had crazy amounts of skill where teams like col and x6 had grandpa like self-control and experience, they always did the right things at the right times.

Now that I am older and have more of understanding for the game I can see why certain players were needed for a team. Chaos and max were smart and could hold a route but would hardly win a one v one against the top players in the game where Kellen, dorito, and Marshall would frag like sobs.


Why are skill and self-control mutually exclusive in your mind? Dorito and deadbeat were the best players in the game because they were faster and had better aim and made better decisions than anyone else at their positions. Watch bryan's movies and ask yourself how often was he in a bad position and had to make a great shot to stay alive... and count those versus the times he was in a great position and hit a good shot that he made look easy. And that's in a movie, where someone's showing off his ability to hit incredible shots.

I don't expect you to know this because I don't think you've ever sniped, but the hardest skill to learn for a sniper is to not shoot, or to shoot slower. Call it self-control, or patience, but it's something that you have to train yourself to do if you want to be the best. Being able to tell the difference between someone showing their left shoulder to bait a shot and someone peeking with their left shoulder is fucking hard. If a sniper can't do that, they're not good. They're toast against anyone good. Your team straight up loses middle on rr2, and any other map with sniper windows, if your sniper can't do this and the other team's can. There were a lot of cal-i snipers that couldn't do that. Were they more or less skilled than snipers that practiced that level of self-control and visual recognition? You actually have to be faster than people that shoot at that shoulder bait if you want to be able to recognize it and then react. If you're that fast, you realize you can train yourself to be better than everyone else and you go do it. This applies to a ton of other situations where not shooting as fast as you can react gives you an easier, more consistently hittable shot.

x6 was the best because we had more skill and made better decisions than other teams, not one or the other. coL was likely the same, although I didn't play with them so I can't speak for them.

p.s. Max was taking rounds off carnage in ra3 at our Lethal Gamers bootcamp. He had really fucking good aim. If you associate proning (to ensure kills) with bad aim, it's because you've never been good.

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Post by Jb_ » May 2011

scorch- wrote:
seanality wrote:Teams like hb and risk had crazy amounts of skill where teams like col and x6 had grandpa like self-control and experience, they always did the right things at the right times.

Now that I am older and have more of understanding for the game I can see why certain players were needed for a team. Chaos and max were smart and could hold a route but would hardly win a one v one against the top players in the game where Kellen, dorito, and Marshall would frag like sobs.


Why are skill and self-control mutually exclusive in your mind? Dorito and deadbeat were the best players in the game because they were faster and had better aim and made better decisions than anyone else at their positions. Watch bryan's movies and ask yourself how often was he in a bad position and had to make a great shot to stay alive... and count those versus the times he was in a great position and hit a good shot that he made look easy. And that's in a movie, where someone's showing off his ability to hit incredible shots.

I don't expect you to know this because I don't think you've ever sniped, but the hardest skill to learn for a sniper is to not shoot, or to shoot slower. Call it self-control, or patience, but it's something that you have to train yourself to do if you want to be the best. Being able to tell the difference between someone showing their left shoulder to bait a shot and someone peeking with their left shoulder is fucking hard. If a sniper can't do that, they're not good. They're toast against anyone good. Your team straight up loses middle on rr2, and any other map with sniper windows, if your sniper can't do this and the other team's can. There were a lot of cal-i snipers that couldn't do that. Were they more or less skilled than snipers that practiced that level of self-control and visual recognition? You actually have to be faster than people that shoot at that shoulder bait if you want to be able to recognize it and then react. If you're that fast, you realize you can train yourself to be better than everyone else and you go do it. This applies to a ton of other situations where not shooting as fast as you can react gives you an easier, more consistently hittable shot.

x6 was the best because we had more skill and made better decisions than other teams, not one or the other. coL was likely the same, although I didn't play with them so I can't speak for them.

p.s. Max was taking rounds off carnage in ra3 at our Lethal Gamers bootcamp. He had really fucking good aim. If you associate proning (to ensure kills) with bad aim, it's because you've never been good.



I dunno about all that, I just use to open dod and play. But yeh cool you guys were the best!

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Yeah thats some hardcore ktp.

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Post by Schmiggs » May 2011

scorch- wrote:when you're getting shot in the back by habib in the dumbest/best corner in the universe, you don't have a choice. the screamo just happens.


This^^^

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Post by motive » May 2011

scorch- wrote:I don't expect you to know this because I don't think you've ever sniped, but the hardest skill to learn for a sniper is to not shoot, or to shoot slower. Call it self-control, or patience, but it's something that you have to train yourself to do if you want to be the best. Being able to tell the difference between someone showing their left shoulder to bait a shot and someone peeking with their left shoulder is fucking hard. If a sniper can't do that, they're not good. They're toast against anyone good. Your team straight up loses middle on rr2, and any other map with sniper windows, if your sniper can't do this and the other team's can. There were a lot of cal-i snipers that couldn't do that. Were they more or less skilled than snipers that practiced that level of self-control and visual recognition? You actually have to be faster than people that shoot at that shoulder bait if you want to be able to recognize it and then react. If you're that fast, you realize you can train yourself to be better than everyone else and you go do it. This applies to a ton of other situations where not shooting as fast as you can react gives you an easier, more consistently hittable shot.


dan droppin fuckin science itt

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Post by motive » May 2011

i would also like to add that beyond knowing how to aim+shoot you also need to recognize where to refocus your efforts depending on where your team is weak, who on the other team is overpowering you, or when you can exploit certain routes to your advantage

this usually marks the difference between bads who sit in allies loft on rr2 for the whole match and don't know when it's better to push 4way or funnel into long out of apts

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Post by james- » May 2011

Sniping relies just as much on speeding up your reactions as it does slowing them down.

If you can't get that shot off fast enough, the other player has the upper hand. Getting into those 1v1 sniper situations where it's just you two and you keep trading off shots, getting cornered and dropping down to 1% health... Those were the fun moments :] Although I never thought sniper competition was very impressive online, lan however was a blast.

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Post by scorch- » May 2011

james- wrote:Sniping relies just as much on speeding up your reactions as it does slowing them down.

If you can't get that shot off fast enough, the other player has the upper hand. Getting into those 1v1 sniper situations where it's just you two and you keep trading off shots, getting cornered and dropping down to 1% health... Those were the fun moments :] Although I never thought sniper competition was very impressive online, lan however was a blast.


I guess my point was that there's a whole different world of understanding the top players developed that most people just playing in CAL never experienced. When I got to be pretty good, I thought the difference was being able to react faster. When I played more cs/dod and could react faster, I realized there was a lot more to being better than just shooting faster.

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Post by unpro » May 2011

sniping in CS is very much dependent on not taking that bait shot at crucial times, even though you know damn well half the time you can make it. its all about timing when you snipe. i never really got good at it in dod, but i know from experience in CS, that not waiting for the push and attempting to make the snap shot on the peek was 90% of the time how you got yourself out of position, killed, or gave up a site. lower level players its easy to make up that mistake, you get punished hard once you hit that upper level of skill though.

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Post by squatta » May 2011

this thread has turned into the nerdiest conversation ever.

congrats cpl-i +++ cyber-athletes

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Post by Airnick15 » May 2011

I think you guys are overanalyzing this, all you do is sit in a window/tower/crack for two halves and shoot shit after your teammates die. At least that is what blake lennon has taught us.

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Post by unpro » May 2011

Haha, well to each his own :D

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Post by Marshall_D » June 2011

jb- attracting e-thugs as always. Best promoter in this game goes to josh mutha fuckin brown yall.

keep the prac.

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Post by mogers » June 2011

If I could like or thumbs up Fusions post I would. Oh and wtf Marshall_D, can I have your autograph?

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Post by Marshall_D » June 2011

oh hai!~ 8-)

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Post by cassinoroyale » June 2011

Well... I'm not part of the USA community but I have to agree that x6/coL was a step above other teams back then. And please don't even start some kind a prejudiced reply or something. Be cool just reading and ignoring it.

However as far as game legacy is concerned highball have better music in its vid. This can count points for them?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flcsHF0jwEs

And by the way, about

Sears wrote:I put all of the South Americans into one division, and then "accidentally" deleted said division in what TED dubbed "Operation Smelly Bananas".

Is that corrupt?


Yes, it was. A lot actually lol. :roll:

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Post by squatta » June 2011

Bro, it's not my fault that they you people couldn't figure out how to play each other in your own division and FF'd every single one of your matches, it had to be done...

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Post by porNy » June 2011

Schmiggs wrote:LOL I miss hanging out in RVC. They were all good guys and some of the best players of the game used to be in there.

Lots of good times had there.


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Post by PUNKYETi » August 2011

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Re: Most dominant clan ever.

Post by 3h_s0v » September 2011

I don't understand how this is even a topic of debate.

3xtreme humiliation is the winningest team in the history of the game.

As far as all the other amazing teams that had good runs, they were trying hard while we were away on vacation celebrating all of our glorious victories.

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