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DoD Revival

Post by CeebzMom » June 2014

With the phrase "DoD is dead" floating around for the past half a year, it's difficult to not believe it or even see DoD otherwise. However, I will give my perspective on the DoD 1.3 situation, explain and describe why it's dead, and tell what we can do to change it.

It's no question that the most recent TPG season has been the most inactive competitive season in Day of Defeat's competitive career. Team numbers are relatively fine, honestly, but that's not the problem(s); the numbers have still dropped, especially concerning the amount of the higher-level competitive individuals and teams. Scrimming is at an all-time low, and most teams do not own a server.

The odd point about this all, is that a nice amount of people/teams still love to play this game. The problem to me, it seems: everyone is just going with the flow and letting DoD fade, even though they don't want it to fade. A very few people, if any at all, have stepped up to the plate and voiced their opinions, given suggestions, or things of that nature. And those who have opened their mouth to speak, and maybe had good ideas, either didn't put their ideas into action for long or didn't even lift a finger to execute at all.

I know the ambition of DoD players and teams is high, it simply lurks in the dark waiting for a torch to follow. If you make some simple time and effort to do your part in the community, I guarantee that this game's competitive scene could turn back around in an instant. How do I know this? Well it's simple; because the game and its competitive aspect is what the player-base makes of it.

1) Fix the mentality.
This is the first step, because to accomplish the rest of the steps you will need this for support. As we all know, in recent DoD history it has become sort of a shameful thing to care about the game. It is "looked down upon" to scrim or practice for matches, or care about much of anything related to the game. Well I ask you one thing: who exactly is making these rules? Is it that a horde of some well-known former players are setting the mood for this game, and the remaining/newer community is taking the heat because they feel powerless? Hmmm. I want to tell you that the community who plays the game makes the rules. Try hard if you want to, make the game competitive again. Don't be ashamed to spam for scrims, voice your opinion on 1911, or anything else. If you like the game and want to see it back up again (and I'm talking the real deal), don't worry about what the nay-sayers are saying. Don't give them power to tell you how to play the game that they don't play (that you play). Stop giving into the "DoD is dead" attitude, and lift a finger.

2) All these points tie in together, so, fresh out of that last paragraph, I want to put the emphasis on practicing/scrimming, and having your own server. Have your team pitch in to buy a server if you don't have one. Depending on the amount of people on your team, this could be anywhere from a few dollars a month per player, to maybe ten dollars per player per month. That is not a lot. You could even weigh the distribution of funds according to who is more willing based on their lifestyle and whatnot. It's not hard to buy a server for your team, everyone had a server in the past for matches, scrims, and practice, and people do it today in every other game out there (including DoD somewhat). Once you have a server, you can look for scrims more.

3) Volunteer your skills to further the scene. If you are good at video editing and things like that, you could help out with the Frags of the Week videos. If you are good in photoshop, you could help the video makers. If you are a good writer, you could submit articles to 1911 or become a regular writer for DoD predictions. If you have good organizational and social skills, you could look into organizing a LAN in your local town. The list goes on and on, but I'm sure people can figure out how to lend a helping hand.

4) Some other things that would help the scene are as follows:
a) Know your rates and try to get decent servers. it's frustrating to play when nothing hits people. In the past it was looked down upon to use rates around 60 or lower for cmd/updaterate, and lower than 20000 for rate. This is the generally accepted truth in all half-life games. 95% of people should be running 100 cmd/updaterate and 100000 rate, your only excuse is a truly poor computer and internet. Then, try to not buy the cheapest servers around.
b) Be nice to new players. Help them out. Believe it or not, people still discover this game to this day, and will continue to do so. A lot of these people end up in the pubs, so don't be a jerk there. Also, you could promote league-play on your local pub's community forum. I have done this for well over a year and I guarantee I've gotten more than a few people involved.

5) Don't cheat. Cheating includes anything from cheat programs, to scripts, to extreme gamma whoring and other gamma commands, to any other config cvars that allow an obvious advantage over those who are playing the game in a legitimate fashion. There are certainly some config commands which can be altered for better fps and gameplay, but there is a clear line between those settings and settings that render you as a "cheater." If you aren't sure, ask someone who would know. Cheating will get you nowhere in real-life (or if it does, it won't last long and you will end up worse-off than before) and it will get you nowhere but hated in online gaming. Think sensibly, don't ruin it for everyone else.

This article was a long one, but it talks about some very realistic and simple things we could do to bring the game back to its rightfully-deserved awesome status. These things do not take much of your time, just a shift in attitude and a simple execution of some generally simple ideas. I'm all for it; and if you are too, then you will decide to see this through. Just remember; whatever happens to this game, is up to you and your peers. DoD has been a community effort from the beginning; and once the community clocks in again, so will the game rise again.

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Re: DoD Revival

Post by CeebzMom » June 2014

why you nerds lurk my post but no one responds

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Re: DoD Revival

Post by judio.- » June 2014

whoever made that is a puto.

dod is alive, argentinians run this game.

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Post by judio.- » June 2014

americans cant even beat our cultuire they dont evn take screenshot when they play us cause they chet.

ez game ez wins

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Re: DoD Revival

Post by CeebzMom » June 2014

Type a coherent sentence then come back to this thread.

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Post by ward » June 2014

Nice try, TonyMontana.

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Re: DoD Revival

Post by hildebrand » June 2014

1) Fix the mentality.
This is the first step, because to accomplish the rest of the steps you will need this for support. As we all know, in recent DoD history it has become sort of a shameful thing to care about the game. It is "looked down upon" to scrim or practice for matches, or care about much of anything related to the game. Well I ask you one thing: who exactly is making these rules? Is it that a horde of some well-known former players are setting the mood for this game, and the remaining/newer community is taking the heat because they feel powerless? Hmmm. I want to tell you that the community who plays the game makes the rules. Try hard if you want to, make the game competitive again. Don't be ashamed to spam for scrims, voice your opinion on 1911, or anything else. If you like the game and want to see it back up again (and I'm talking the real deal), don't worry about what the nay-sayers are saying. Don't give them power to tell you how to play the game that they don't play (that you play). Stop giving into the "DoD is dead" attitude, and lift a finger.


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Re: DoD Revival

Post by judio.- » June 2014

hildebrand wrote:
1) Fix the mentality.
This is the first step, because to accomplish the rest of the steps you will need this for support. As we all know, in recent DoD history it has become sort of a shameful thing to care about the game. It is "looked down upon" to scrim or practice for matches, or care about much of anything related to the game. Well I ask you one thing: who exactly is making these rules? Is it that a horde of some well-known former players are setting the mood for this game, and the remaining/newer community is taking the heat because they feel powerless? Hmmm. I want to tell you that the community who plays the game makes the rules. Try hard if you want to, make the game competitive again. Don't be ashamed to spam for scrims, voice your opinion on 1911, or anything else. If you like the game and want to see it back up again (and I'm talking the real deal), don't worry about what the nay-sayers are saying. Don't give them power to tell you how to play the game that they don't play (that you play). Stop giving into the "DoD is dead" attitude, and lift a finger.


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Post by Joey » June 2014

Not sure if you are Tony or some other troll but all I do know is it would be cool to see TPG more active than it is currently.

Does anyone actually have the power to stop teams dying early in the season? The charm to bring back all the inactive teams we've lost or the ability to convince the newly registered teams to get 6+ on their roster and actually play?

If not then the following example of a small league getting smaller will only get worse:

Teams that died/went inactive between season 33 and season 34:

NoGo:
http://www.tpgleague.org/dod6/team/1631/

|3h|:
http://www.tpgleague.org/dod6/team/1816/


hb-:
http://www.tpgleague.org/dod6/team/2062/

dgf:
http://www.tpgleague.org/dod6/team/29/

Walmart Shoppers:
http://www.tpgleague.org/dod6/team/2139/

Merrils Marauders:
http://www.tpgleague.org/dod6/team/679/


g.skill:
http://www.tpgleague.org/dod6/team/2003/

vVv:
http://www.tpgleague.org/dod6/team/1980/



Teams that died after season 34 started:

game0ver: Dead after 2 games
http://www.tpgleague.org/dod6/team/2162/


Usefulltactics: Dead after 3 games
http://www.tpgleague.org/dod6/team/2190/


NOFUX: Dead after 2 games
http://www2.tpgleague.org/regions/team/2191/


Capuchon: Dead after 5 games
http://www.tpgleague.org/dod6/team/2165/


Teams that registered for season 34 yet still haven't played a single game:

Misfits:
http://www.tpgleague.org/dod6/team/2238/


Buff Bandits:
http://www.tpgleague.org/dod6/team/2159/


K@r? (good luck VirusX)

(FWIW, most of the teams listed with the exception of NOFUX have still got more than enough players on their roster to play TPG or have 4+ and could easily pick up some extra players to make a team)

14 teams listed, none of them playing TPG.

So, what's the plan guys?

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Post by sevEN » June 2014

yea. lets all listen to an aliased guy who has 6 posts to his current name, which by the way, happens to be "CeebzMom".

BTW , you lost me at viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4707&p=89471#p89471

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Re: DoD Revival

Post by TonyMontana » June 2014

Excuse me? I'M the one who gets loaded and comes up with insane ideas to save this game.

"There are HUGE improvements and bug fixes for the client. I know it is tedious to constantly update the client every week... but I think this will be the last update until the end of the season."

Sounds like fun. How could anyone not wanna play

*Rest easy nerds, I would never alias as another person to try and get my point across. LMAO'ing at whoever this nerd is, who basically made the exact same post, with the exact same format as me, a few weeks after mine. Trust me when I say there is nothing in life that I do that any of you should ever want to emulate

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Post by DD-aftershock » June 2014

Joey wrote:Not sure if you are Tony or some other troll but all I do know is it would be cool to see TPG more active than it is currently.

Does anyone actually have the power to stop teams dying early in the season? The charm to bring back all the inactive teams we've lost or the ability to convince the newly registered teams to get 6+ on their roster and actually play?

If not then the following example of a small league getting smaller will only get worse:

Teams that died/went inactive between season 33 and season 34:

NoGo:
http://www.tpgleague.org/dod6/team/1631/

|3h|:
http://www.tpgleague.org/dod6/team/1816/


hb-:
http://www.tpgleague.org/dod6/team/2062/

dgf:
http://www.tpgleague.org/dod6/team/29/

Walmart Shoppers:
http://www.tpgleague.org/dod6/team/2139/

Merrils Marauders:
http://www.tpgleague.org/dod6/team/679/


g.skill:
http://www.tpgleague.org/dod6/team/2003/

vVv:
http://www.tpgleague.org/dod6/team/1980/



Teams that died after season 34 started:

game0ver: Dead after 2 games
http://www.tpgleague.org/dod6/team/2162/


Usefulltactics: Dead after 3 games
http://www.tpgleague.org/dod6/team/2190/


NOFUX: Dead after 2 games
http://www2.tpgleague.org/regions/team/2191/


Capuchon: Dead after 5 games
http://www.tpgleague.org/dod6/team/2165/


Teams that registered for season 34 yet still haven't played a single game:

Misfits:
http://www.tpgleague.org/dod6/team/2238/
( think team died before it started to form IMO )

Buff Bandits:
http://www.tpgleague.org/dod6/team/2159/
I tried contacting the capt who didnt respond to me at all so they never were a consideration as far as i know

K@r? (good luck VirusX)

(FWIW, most of the teams listed with the exception of NOFUX have still got more than enough players on their roster to play TPG or have 4+ and could easily pick up some extra players to make a team)

14 teams listed, none of them playing TPG.

So, what's the plan guys?

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Re: DoD Revival

Post by Tin Bad » June 2014

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Re: DoD Revival

Post by bewton » June 2014

Well I'll place my personal opinion as to why I haven't been playing...

1. I'm getting sick of playing the same maps I've played for a decade.
2. I don't like playing dod on Sunday nights
3. It's summer, and I'd rather be doing other things on my days off.

Maybe dod doesn't have it in it to be a year round game anymore. Personally I'm usually quite inactive in the summer, then by fall I'm interested again. TPG September - May perhaps? Small tournaments in the summer?

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Re: DoD Revival

Post by tugger » June 2014

bewton wrote:Well I'll place my personal opinion as to why I haven't been playing...

1. I'm getting sick of playing the same maps I've played for a decade.
2. I don't like playing dod on Sunday nights
3. It's summer, and I'd rather be doing other things on my days off.

Maybe dod doesn't have it in it to be a year round game anymore. Personally I'm usually quite inactive in the summer, then by fall I'm interested again. TPG September - May perhaps? Small tournaments in the summer?


i agree

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Post by cassinoroyale » June 2014

The competitive game cycle is already gone for quite long already, there is no way to revive the scene unless someone invest thousands of dollars in prizes and organization for teams to get interested and heat up the community outside 1911. TBH this last season suffered on too many delays and week offs (no matches next week, again) due to holidays on top of the recurring, season by season, lack of competitiveness. The anticheat coming was a fine improvement, alas too late :(

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Post by wonderbread » June 2014

its summer time,i don't believe people are gonna sit around playing video games.it will prolly pick back up in the fall MAYBE.

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Post by snootz » June 2014

Hey suckdicks - it's 2014. Game's been dead since I retired over 8 years ago. Get a life you pennypackers.

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Post by scorch- » June 2014

Step 1: Win a CPL
Step 2: Talk

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Post by knockout » June 2014

The game died with no [)3@[)LY$N|P3|2 to keep it afloat

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Post by Sacred » July 2014

As much as i'd love to see DoD revived back to its glory days, it will never ever happen. If by chance steam revitalized the game like they did with cs:go, then there would be a lot of interest im sure. The seriousness of the game has passed unfortunately. A majority of the people who kept this community going are older now with wives, children, jobs etc.

I do miss it dearly though.

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Post by squatta » July 2014

Sacred wrote:As much as i'd love to see DoD revived back to its glory days, it will never ever happen. If by chance steam revitalized the game like they did with cs:go, then there would be a lot of interest im sure. The seriousness of the game has passed unfortunately. A majority of the people who kept this community going are older now with wives, children, jobs etc.

I do miss it dearly though.


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